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SE Radio 385: Evan Gilman and Doug Barth on Zero-Trust Networks

Evan Gilman and Doug Barth, authors of Zero-Trust Networks: building secure systems in untrusted networks discuss zero-trust networks.  The discussion covers: the perimeter network architecture; the threat model in modern networks; the meaning of “trust in the network”; why we should not trust our networks (it’s probably already owned); the concept of zero trust in the network; design of the zero-trust network; the control plane and the data plane; trust scoring – behavioral, policy-driven, and uses of ML/AI. encryption; running your own internal CA; trusting apps; the secure build pipeline; DevOps and the zero-trust model; tools and frameworks; where are we in the adoption curve?

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